A conversation with Lisa Verni, Certified Deeptime Leader and Psychotherapist on her creation and how she finds meaning, health, connection, and peace through “dancing with the pain”.

Interview by Haseena Patel and Dr. Tom Acklin in Convergence room: Humanity as Organism Thrives.

Meditation Offering by Katie Morgan of Manifestingbusual.org

Music by DD Verni and the Cadillac Band