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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    I’d want to bring empirical research into this conversation that gives a more complete explanation for why I regard the universe as a living system and, in John Wheeler’s phrase, as a “participatory universe.” This research involves both objective and subjective aspects of knowing. The conversation so far has focused only on the “scient…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    I’d want to bring empirical research into this conversation that gives a more complete explanation for why I regard the universe as a living system and, in John Wheeler’s phrase, as a “participatory universe.” This research involves both objective and subjective aspects of knowing. The conversation so far has focused only on the “scient…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    I’d want to bring empirical research into this conversation that gives a more complete explanation for why I regard the universe as a living system and, in John Wheeler’s phrase, as a “participatory universe.” This research involves both objective and subjective aspects of knowing. The conversation so far has focused only on the “scient…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    I’d want to bring empirical research into this conversation that gives a more complete explanation for why I regard the universe as a living system and, in John Wheeler’s phrase, as a “participatory universe.” This research involves both objective and subjective aspects of knowing. The conversation so far has focused only on the “scient…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    I’d want to bring empirical research into this conversation that gives a more complete explanation for why I regard the universe as a living system and, in John Wheeler’s phrase, as a “participatory universe.” This research involves both objective and subjective aspects of knowing. The conversation so far has focused only on the “scient…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    I’d want to bring empirical research into this conversation that gives a more complete explanation for why I regard the universe as a living system and, in John Wheeler’s phrase, as a “participatory universe.” This research involves both objective and subjective aspects of knowing. The conversation so far has focused only on the “scient…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Jon,A: my apologies for describing you as “closed minded” and I appreciate you being open to the idea and definition of a “multiverse.” B. More on my own definition of a “multiverse” in a later post. Thanks for bringing it in. C. You are correct that multiverse theory is not “proven” although there are some tantalizing clues emerging from brane…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Jon, There are many ideas that you bring up that I disagree with and don’t have the time today to go through them all. I would like to mention a couple: First, you say that the physicist, David Bohm “regularly fooled by charlatans” and, as proof of this you quote Martin Gardner. Gardner was a notoriously closed-minded skeptic who…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan, Thanks for these clarifying and insightful comments. Yes, we seem to have at least these two threads of conversation going and I appreciate your contributions to them both. Personally, I agree with your comment that, “Life may be difficult to define precisely because its “livingness” is a qualitative perception that can’t be easily quant…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks for the important questions Jon,   In that spirit, I question your assumption that “the universe is by definition everything.” This assumption is now being strongly questioned by scientists developing multiverse or multiple universe theories. For example, if I go to the “Google Scholar” search engine, it lists nearly 13,000 references rega…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks for the important questions Jon,  In that spirit, I question your assumption that “the universe is by definition everything.” This assumption is now being strongly questioned by scientists developing multiverse or multiple universe theories. For example, if I go to the “Google Scholar” search engine, it lists nearly 13,000 references reg…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks for the important questions Jon, In that spirit, I question your assumption that “the universe is by definition everything.” This assumption is now being strongly questioned by scientists developing multiverse or multiple universe theories. For example, if I go to the “Google Scholar” search engine, it lists nearly 13,000 references reg…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks for the important questions Jon,In that spirit, I question your assumption that “the universe is by definition everything.” This assumption is now being strongly questioned by scientists developing multiverse or multiple universe theories. For example, if I go to the “Google Scholar” search engine, it lists nearly 13,000 references reg…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Greetings Linda,Welcome to this conversation. Thanks for your work–preserving geological evidence of the Earth’s ancient origins of life is vital to understanding the story of our evolution. Duane

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan, Following up on your comments about metabolism at the scale of galaxies, I recall an article in Scientific American magazine in January, 2004 by Bart P. Wakker and Philipp Richter with the title, “Our Growing, Breathing Galaxy,” and the subtitle comment, “Long assumed to be a relic of the distant past, the Milky Way turns out to be a…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan, Following up on your comments about metabolism at the scale of galaxies, I recall an article in Scientific American magazine in January, 2004 by Bart P. Wakker and Philipp Richter with the title, “Our Growing, Breathing Galaxy,” and the subtitle comment, “Long assumed to be a relic of the distant past, the Milky Way turns out to be a…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan, Following up on your comments about metabolism at the scale of galaxies, I recall an article in Scientific American magazine in January, 2004 by Bart P. Wakker and Philipp Richter with the title, “Our Growing, Breathing Galaxy,” and the subtitle comment, “Long assumed to be a relic of the distant past, the Milky Way turns out to be a…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan,Following up on your comments about metabolism at the scale of galaxies, I recall an article in Scientific American magazine in January, 2004 by Bart P. Wakker and Philipp Richter with the title, “Our Growing, Breathing Galaxy,” and the subtitle comment, “Long assumed to be a relic of the distant past, the Milky Way turns out to be a…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan, Following up on your comments about metabolism at the scale of galaxies, I recall an article in Scientific American magazine in January, 2004 by Bart P. Wakker and Philipp Richter with the title, “Our Growing, Breathing Galaxy,” and the subtitle comment, “Long assumed to be a relic of the distant past, the Milky Way turns out to be a…[Read more]

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    Duane Elgin replied to the topic Is the universe a "living system"? in the forum Deeptime Network Forum 11 years, 2 months ago

    Stephan,Following up on your comments about metabolism at the scale of galaxies, I recall an article in Scientific American magazine in January, 2004 by Bart P. Wakker and Philipp Richter with the title, “Our Growing, Breathing Galaxy,” and the subtitle comment, “Long assumed to be a relic of the distant past, the Milky Way turns out to be a…[Read more]

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